Vision and conceptualization

“Anon.”: ‘The ideas or concepts of Advaita or any other school of thought/belief, etc., introduce duality into the mind…“It’s only the conceptualization of thought that prevents direct experience of what is.”’

M. That is, in my opinion, like putting the cart ahead of the horse. Thinking, or conceptualization for that matter, is a function of the mind, and mind is consubstantial with duality – it is there not to confound or mislead us, on the contrary, to address all issues and problems in the right manner, that is, intelligently. The individual mind is subservient to intelligence – which is transpersonal -, and intelligence (nous) is in turn subservient to vision or ‘apprehension’, intuition, ‘what is’ (pick your word) and unites with it. But vision or insight, which is wordless, as if coming from empty space, is ahead of or prior to the mind. The vision or intuition (not just intellectual but transcendental, transpersonal) is then invested with words and then we have the concepts and ‘explanations’ of that which, in itself, is unexplainable, unutterable. Continue reading

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From ‘Nondual Clarity’ – Feb. 12, 2017

David Aldridge. As Liberation matures you notice how much of life is devoted to the search for stimulation and excitation. Once all that is dropped, there is a release into true Satisfaction.

SA. Satisfaction of what? There is nothing to be satisfied from. Nothing to accomplish. Nothing to lose and nothing to gain. Nothing to be satisfied about.

DK. Liberation cannot “mature”. It is an unchanging state. No events, no things. No past and no future.

DK. David Aldridgepoints to the moon (of experience) and y’all get busy talking about the finger. Can you not distinguish poetic metaphor vs literalism? I myself know exactly what he is trying to say; I have experienced this very same thing.

M. ‘Safaction’ (HM!)… ‘Prajapati said: ‘The self which is free from sin…old age…death…grief — that is the self which should be searched out.’ On hearing this, the devas (gods) and asuras (demons) went searching for it, Indra being the first. On being told so, Prajapati made them to dwell with him for 32 years to receive the teaching. Then, after he suggested to them the body to be the reality (“Look at yourself in a pan of water…”), they all believed that that is the self and were satisfied… all except Indra (“I do not see any good in this doctrine”). Virochana satisfied in heart went to the demons and taught them to worship the body only.

Indra spent another thirty two years with Prajapati. After that period, it was the turn of the dreams to be the reality, as suggested to by the latter (“He who moves about, exalted, in dreams – this is the Self, immortal, fearless”). But after some deliberation, Indra thought: ‘I do not see any good in this doctrine’, and went back to Prajapati. Then, after another thirty two years, the doctrine taught to Indra was that deep sleep is what is real. Again, Indra deliberated, concluding at the end that in deep sleep one reaches utter annihilation. After living with Prajapati for a final five years, Indra came to learn the truth: The Self enjoys all pleasures as an inner spectator only; He perceives in all things His Self only. What from the relative standpoint are called objects, are to Him Brahman only. (From Chandogya Upanishad).

Notice that here there is a progression from physical body to subtle body (dreams) to deep sleep (causal body) to no-body (no-thing, the fourth ‘state’).




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Questions in Quora

(Q&As in Quora)

What are some essential self awareness exercises?

M. None, unless attention… Greg Goode (a Non-dualist teacher) recommends ‘Standing as Awareness’. That is the title of a booklet by him.

In Advaita Vedanta Gaudapada and Shankara did not recommend any exercises except, perhaps, Asparsha yoga (which means, ‘no-relationship – with anything), and only as a preparation for less-gifted students. All experiences derived from exercises, including Samadhi, are only temporary. Advaita is not Yoga, and there are no injunctions or exercises in it – only Intuition and reasoning based on it. There is the triple way or method: ‘hearing’ (the scriptures= Upanishads), reflecting on what has been read or listened to (if one has a guide or teacher), and contemplation (nididhyasana). That is all.

Will we as humans be able to distinguish between our conscious and electrical conscious?

M. I don’t understand what you mean by ‘electrical conscious’. Do you mean the electro-chemical signals between synapses in the brain which transmit and share information between neurons? That is only the physical basis or vehicle for consciousness. Consciousness is not a phenomenon, it is an (ontological) reality – ‘what is’, beyond even conceptualization, and not physical. Consciousness is indescribable and unknowable by the mind (brain-based mind, again, being a vehicle or ‘transducer’), and, thus, a metaphysical or spiritual reality.


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Conceptual vs. experiential

  • “Self or consciousness does not make the passage to the other shore or cross over. Rather, the crossing is the body and senses acclimating to life without any experience of self or consciousness and all that it implies.” Bernadette Roberts

This is from the mouth of someone who purportedly has first-hand experience of what she speaks of and is not philosophical or conceptual according to her.

This entry in a recent discussion/debate in an internet blog started it all for me. A question that surfaces with some frequency on reading around  the topic of awakening/non-duality, including  New Age spirituality, and which is very much in the limelight nowadays (and has been so for a long time). It centers on the distinction or dichotomy: knowing/experiencing, or intellectual/experiential, or thinking/feeling (though this last pair seems to overstretch a bit).

Notice, for now, the expressions: ‘first hand experience’… ‘not philosophical or conceptual’ Continue reading

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Pantheism, agnosticism/atheism — and advaita

I have devised this classification for reference: Modes of pantheism

(Divine pantheism; Natural pantheism; Spiritual pantheism; scientific pantheism)

Brad Neil, proponent of nonduality

Modes of pantheism

Within the range of categories given, I find myself somewhat ambivalent:

  • I most closely align with natural I believe the physical universe is all that there is, and that there are eternal forces and energies at play. I do not believe in the supernatural.
  • Scientificpantheism is least applicable to me because I really don’t have a problem being labeled an atheist. In my opinion, atheism and pantheism are almost (but not quite) two sides of a coin.
  • But when I’m feeling in my best of moods, I think I fall under spiritual or divine When my mood is high, I sometimes experience an awe and a gratitude that gives me a deeper feeling of connection to existence.

More generally, self-labels that I do not find objectionable include pantheist, nondualist, agnostic, atheist, and skeptic. However, I have none of these words tattooed on my forehead, and I reserve the right to change my thinking at any time. Continue reading

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How many of you agree with the theory that our consciousness ends when we die?

(There’s of course nothing called ‘Soul’ of a person that goes on to live forever in afterlife. I’m an atheist. I person believe that when we die, our brain and the entire body shuts down, and we meet an end. Those of us who experienced anesthesia knows how it feels when our brains are inactive.)


M. I for one do not agree. Bodies decay and die, not so consciousness. The whole is greater than the part, and that whole can be called ‘life’, ‘existence’, or ‘consciousness’ – none of it reducible to the physical or material. All bipolar concepts, such as life-death, good-bad, one-many, mind-body, ‘you and I’ (‘me and the other’) are false – just concepts. There is only totality (‘what is’), namely, existence or being – not many existences (existents), but one existence; not many loves, but one Love Consciousness and reality1535525_676806255693789_2147234899_n. And all of us are in essence, that is, in reality, existence and love – they are not ‘two’ (love being Plato’s higher ‘eros’ or desire) once plurality is ‘seen’ for what it is: a deception or narrow vision.

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Goose flies with avocets, photo — Dear Kitty. Some blog

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